SoundPolitics got a gem of a comment from a raving liberal and confessed MoveOn.Org supporter. Let me try to address the points. Perhaps those who suffer from Bush derangement syndrome will see the light. Perhaps not.
I am a member of MOVE ON…
Thanks for being honest.
…and since the ad came out our membership has grown by millions.
I strongly doubt that is true. However, if it is, it is still a logical fallacy: argumentum ad populum. Just because a lot of people say you are right does not make you right.
You neo cons have no right to call anyone anything.
So the right of free speech only applies to those who are not neo-cons? Interesting. I believe it applies to all equally.
Baby bush has done nothing but lie, to get us into war, about winning the war,(MISSION ACCOMPLISHED, May 1, 2001), renditions, torture, spying, wiretapping, and signing statements.
If Bush lied, why isn’t there any documentation or any record of fact on that? Let me reiterate: Bush has yet to lie, even once, about the smallest of subject.
On the entry war: If President Bush lied, then so did the entire world, including Saddam. The evidence is not that he lied or encouraged anyone to misrepresent the facts, but instead he did everything in his power to get to the truth. You should re-read the various reports that have been published on this.
On winning the war: Major combat operations did end before May 1, 2001, and all signs at that time pointed to there not being any need for a major military presence. By the way, the scale of operations in Iraq are a drop in the bucket compared to what we did in Vietnam or World War II. We are in a counter-insurgency mode, which means keeping land we had already taken from going over to rebels. In other words, if the president lied about the end of the war, then so did President Lincoln lie about the end of the Civil War, President Truman about the end of World War II, etc. In those areas as well, there was a significant counterinsurgency after the end of the war.
On renditions, torture: Cite one fact, other than terrorist testimony (which, unlike President Bush, regularly lie). I am sure with all the countless lawyers and FBI and CIA and military and congressional members involved in this issue, there would be even one shred of evidence that this is going on. Instead, we have nothing.
Spying, wiretapping: Would you rather we closed our eyes and ears as we tried to uncover plots to kill you and your friends? If you’d like another 9/11, that’s exactly what we’d have to do to get it. As far as spying and wiretapping citizens of the US, I ask you again: Cite one source, one shred of evidence. The government was sued for supposedly spying on citizens of the US, but the judge threw it out because no one had any basis of making a claim. That is, no one had proof that anyone from the government even spied on them. Instead, President Bush has been quite clear that the spying is happening on specific targets, targets that live outside the US. Until you have any evidence that contradicts that, you can’t claim he is lying. You’d think one FBI or CIA agent would step forward and say something. After all, they can’t all be Bush’s cronies, right?
All you neo con christians with your right to life, all life is sacred, until that person doesn’t pray to your god, or doesn’t agree with your message of hate, or doesn’t vote for your brand of fascism, then KILL them, those lees than humans.
I don’t know where you get the impression that those who disagree with you are out to kill you. President Bush has been quite kind to those who have disagreed with him, called him all sorts of absolutely terrible things, and accused him of destroying theTwin Towers. Not one has been arrested, tortured, or abused. In fact, all of them enjoy every civil liberty everyone else does. And message of hate? Who is it that you accuse them of hating? Do you accuse them of hating those who are trying to kill them? Or do you accuse them of hating you? I certainly don’t hate you. Pity–yes. Hate–no. And as far as I’m concerned, I value the lives of Iraqis as highly as that of Americans and anyone else in the world. That’s why they deserve the chance to throw off countles smillenia of oppression and engage for once in a productive democracy. Those men and women who are in Iraq believe the same, and are actively giving their lives to do so. I don’t believe they regard them as less than human.
Meanwhile, you believe that neo-cons shouldn’t have the right to speak freely. Who is it that hates?
You people are the biggest haters since the KKK which you probably are a member and leader.
On the contrary, the Republican Party has been adamantly opposed to the KKK and its principles even before it was founded. KKK members tend to belong to the Democrat party–that’s why the South kept voting democrat throughout the integration years. Look back in history, brother. Republicans fought and sacrificed to see that the Black People could enjoy the blessings of liberty as much as the white people. Or did you forget the whole Civil War thing, the whole reconstruction thing, and the whole Pres. Eisenhower (R) integration thing?
Our country has spent the last six years being run into the ground by your religious fanatical right wing.
On the contrary, the last six years have been some of the best years America has ever seen in its entire history. Today, we are more wealthy, more employed, more productive, and more economically satisfied than I believe we ever have been. More people own homes (including people of non-white descent) and more people own businesses. These last six years have been kind to me and all the people I can see. Economic indicators say my anecdotal evidence isn’t unusual.
Liberal crusher, your kind has made us strong.
If this is true, then you should be quite happy. Liberals will take congress and the presidency. But for the past 20 years, your kind has been unable to make any political progress. In fact, the small victory you had in 2006 was quite short-lived and pyrrhic. Unable to accomplish any of their campaign goals, it looks like the democrats will be going back to their districts with dim hopes of re-election.