40,000 Copies of the Koran Burned


The author of this video explains quite well why we should absolutely condemn those who kill because of a burned Koran, and why we must be willing to fight to keep our freedom to burn Korans.

Let me help people understand why I feel this is so important. My religious beliefs are in violation of probably most of the world’s religions. I believe things that, only 150 years ago, people were killed for. I never, ever want to live in a world where people are killed for their beliefs. I would rather live in a world where those who have different religious beliefs than myself can live side-by-side with me, because we are both free to believe what we like and share our beliefs with others.

If it means we have to allow people to burn Korans and then fight those who would kill in the name of the Koran, so be it. There needs to be a religious reformation in Islam, one that allows people to burn Korans without suffering death.


4 Responses to “40,000 Copies of the Koran Burned”

  1. Aakimo Loyuk Says:

    Absolutely agree with your statements above…

    But when you said,

    “There needs to be a religious reformation in Islam, one that allows people to burn Korans without suffering death.”

    (Unfortunately) that’ll never happen. I don’t know if you’ve read “Republic,” but do you remember what Socrates states about the characteristics of people and the way they effect (or infect) governmental structure? (according to his [Plato’s] view, there are four types of people, therefore – four types of government).

    Imagine If we were born among the desert sands of the Sahara or in the dense jungles of the Amazon, your ways of thinking and expectation would be different, correct? (and I’m not trying to say that it would be the ‘best,’ but none-the-less, they would be very different). And if you grew up in that, how do you start looking elsewhere? I mean, try finding two people in a cul-de-sac that can agree on what they deem, “allowable” or not in society. I know this example is a far cry from your web post above, but I like to think that the principle is still valid.

    No matter how advanced our ways of thinking (or tolerance of other’s religion) maybe, doesn’t mean we will find too many followers behind us. But one could only hope. Thank God we live in America.

    • Jonathan Gardner Says:

      My experience in Korea and Asia tells me that anyone can be “converted” to our way of thinking about individual liberties. It wasn’t too long ago that the Japanese and Koreans were both lopping off people’s heads for the crime of thinking differently than them. The Koreans massacred thousands of Catholics for the crime of being Catholic. The Japaneses have done far worse throughout their history.

      Today, both countries are comparable to America in their tolerance, and in some cases, are even more tolerant of different viewpoints.

      I know it’s possible to change their thinking. I’m not entirely sure what exactly caused the Koreans and Japanese to shift their thinking (both cultures having lost several wars without changing as a result), but I believe exposure to our ideas and way of life is a principal factor. If that’s the case, then there are already millions and maybe billions of Muslims who secretly agree with our political ideas but do not disagree with their close-minded brothren out of fear.

      • Aakimo Loyuk Says:

        Checkmate! You got me.

        I usually carry a pessimistic view of the world in regards to ‘that’ part of the world. Its not that I have any particular ‘intolerance of’ or ‘bias against’ Islam itself, its just that most of my immediate family hails from the Sudan and have had some pretty bleak experiences to say the least.

        My father had to flee (for his life) from there while my grand-father was tortured and killed. I’m not saying that all Muslims are alike. Most of my friends are of the Islamic faith and are spread out across America, the UK, Germany and elsewhere and pretty much share my views of the world. Also, I have a “more than average” understanding of the faith and its history and can appreciate some of it’s finer areas of persuasion.

        Just ignore my last post. It was made from an emotional standpoint and it’s conclusion should be taken with a grain of salt.


        You said,

        “The Japaneses have done far worse throughout their history.”

        Yes this is very true. I am now studying some of the Japanese culture and literature; starting with the complete works of Ryunosuke Akutagawa, the famed short-story essayist who accurately details Japan’s historical society and customs through illustration and prose; and Musashi’s, the Complete Book of the Five Rings.

        What I found was some pretty gruesome stuff. I had absolutely no idea. So once again, your right and I’m wrong on this one.

      • Jonathan Gardner Says:

        I understand the antipathy people feel towards radical Muslims. Because you are so close to the violence inherent in that cult, you obviously have personal reasons to despise them. As a country, we should never forget what they did to us on 9/11, as well as so many other occasions.

        However, the one thing Muslims have going for them is that their religion, for the most part, is based on law. That’s a wonderful start. Many cultures of the world has cultures not based on law, and reforming a people who have no concept of law or who consider laws as something secondary to personal interests is extraordinarily difficult. You can’t have a constitutional republic when the party in power refuses to acknowledge the law.

        What could happen is first, the complete and utter military humiliation of the radical Muslims. By showing them that their ways are not wise ways, that the only sure road to death is to lift the scimitar and shout “Alllah Akbar!”, we make them seriously question those leaders who encourage them to do so. Second, is the intellectual challenges to the religion itself, which can only, initially, come from other Muslims.

        I don’t know that many people recall, but President Bush had hopes of accomplishing the above when he lead the army to invade Iraq. Immediately after our military goals were achieved, and there was a small window of peace, he sent Imams who could preach against radical Islam to Iraq. Unfortunately, the vast majority of them were slaughtered. That shows, as we could expect, that reform can only happen from within.

        Those among the Muslim faith who embrace peace, rather than give lip-service to it while struggling to condemn their violent other half, are those whom we must support with our very lives.

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