On Benghazi


We watched “13 Hours: The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi” last night.

I don’t need to add much to the story of Benghazi. The Americans who fought and died protecting their own lives and the life of the ambassador are heroes, no matter how you look at it.

The people who attacked the Americans betrayed their own people by hiding among them. There is a reason why we wear uniforms when we fight in wars. It helps the enemy not confuse civilians with soldiers. It also helps us determine who’s on our side and who’s not. I wonder how many people died that night because they weren’t wearing uniforms and weren’t readily identifiable as friend or foe. There’s a reason why we don’t give compassionate treatment to people who fight without marking themselves, such as spies and terrorists.

Next: Where was Obama? What was he doing? We still don’t know.

And: Why didn’t the military do anything? Two scenarios here: One, since the CIA were spies operating outside of the law, the military couldn’t do anything. Two, Obama is an incompetent commander in chief who does not empower his people to do what needs to be done without his explicit authorization. Maybe they are both true. With respect to One, as long as the state department official was still alive, a military response was justified, regardless of the secret CIA base.

The political response from the democrats shows why democrats cannot be trusted with anything anymore. I will not rest until those democrats and the democrats who think like them are all out of work or in prison. Abusing their power that way — shameful!

Finally, the sad note that ends Benghazi is that Libya became a failed state and is now under the control of ISIS. Obama is 100% to blame for the Arab Spring and the aftermath. That is his legacy. He created ISIS. He didn’t stop it. He owns it. We are at war with ISIS, and we will be at war with them for as long as they exist.

Shortly after we gained our independence from Britain, ships flying our flag were attacked by the Barbary Pirates. That’s a fancy name for Muslims, or as we said back then, Musselmen. The response we formed was to form the US Navy and Marine Corps and then invade their territory. And we did, and we beat them, twice. Let’s not forget that. The way to handle Muslims who pick up weapons and shoot at Americans is to send our boys into their homes and to demand their complete surrender. Forget the nation building exercises. Let’s turn the Middle East into American territories, complete with territorial governments approved by congress, and make them pay taxes to Uncle Sam in exchange for our troop presence. It’s not colonialism, it’s securing our best interests.

In the meantime, seal up our borders against any type of muslim who has any kind of ties to muslim extremism and violence. While our troops are there, they will attack us in their own backyard rather than here. As for how to seal the borders, it’s rather simple. Build a solid fence. Make some gates. Patrol the fence and the gates. Allow anyone to pass through the gate as long as they present valid ID and have passed a medical check and are not suspected terrorists or criminals. But people who don’t use the gate get gunned down if they resist arrest.

We are at war, and we’ve been at war at least since the 5th Century. Let’s admit that the world is not safe as long as there are people who think they have a religious duty to kill the infidel and take control of their land.

As for the illegal immigrants, AKA “undocumented workers”: It’s time we called it out for what it is. Illegal immigrants are the new slaves, and their masters are those who tolerate their presence. No one should stay for one minute in our country unless they are convinced they have all the rights and privileges any human deserves. I’m not calling for amnesty, I’m calling for accountability. If you’re not here legally, go home and come back legally. As for myself, I am not by any means a protectionist. I have no problem with millions of people flooding our country legally and taking our jobs. We would all benefit if America was known as the place people go to find real work. We’d have all of our manufacturing jobs back in a minute, and the cost of living would sink like a rock as we experience a glut of labor, making our country competitive with every other country out there. I know that my job is in “danger” but honestly, I also know that the more walls we throw up the more software development happens far away from where I live. I like living here.


5 Responses to “On Benghazi”

  1. Jason Says:

    What I got from the movie is we, as a people, have absolutely no understanding of the Middle East.

    Bush started a war to unseat a longstanding Middle East dictator.

    It failed.

    So obama learned a lesson and started a war to unseat a longstanding Middle East dictator.

    To obamas surprise it failed.

    Who could of possibly predicted this?

    The fact that Hillary lied and blamed a YouTube video shows her lack of integrity.

    But I think the lesson is that we really don’t understand Islam and the Middle East.

    • Jonathan Gardner Says:

      I think we do understand the Middle East, and we understood it since a little before we launched the first crusade. Europeans maintained an understanding of the Middle East up until about the time that the Jews returned to their homeland.

      As a group of people, we’re unwilling to accept that our understanding is correct.

      After all, we really, really wish there wasn’t a religion that actually said, “Kill everyone!” It’s a sad state that we can’t acknowledge this fundamental fact and the implications of such a religion.

      True, Bush’s nation building failed, but remember what the general sentiment at the time was. Some of us were seriously considering nuking Mecca. Bush’s invasion bought the Middle East time.

  2. Jason Gardner Says:

    I would say you are correct on that for a good portion of the population but the leaders don’t seem to be able to digest the facts.

    It pretty well spells out what Islam is all about in the Koran.

    I’ve never understood this aspect of religion. If you say you follow the Koran as a Muslim then I don’t like you because I know what is in the Koran and it is antithetical to my value system.


    Quran (9:29) – “Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.” ”

    Not my style. Don’t want you around if you believe that.

    Same goes for the Torah and Talmud. Both the Torah and Talmud are crazy documents that give the green light to abuse non-Jews, celebrates divine genocide and sets Jews as superior “chosen” over the non-Jew. If you say you are Jewish in the sense that you believe and live what is in the Torah then I think you are a pretty terrible individual and I don’t want you near me.


    “The Jews are called human beings, but the non-Jews are not humans. They are beasts.”

    – Talmud: Baba mezia, 114b

    If you are Jewish and believe that we probably are not going to be friends.

    Same for Christianity. If you that the bible is the literal word of god and should be followed literally then you are a pretty terrible person and I’ll avoid you. (You should know why the bible is terrible.)

    I’m surprised when people say they follow a book and then actually follow the words of the book and then others are surprised.

    In Mein Kampf Hitler spelled out his distaste for Bolshevism and the need for living space to the east. Somehow or another Stalin was still surprised when Hitler invaded and did exactly what he wrote he was going to do. Seems a bit stupid in retrospect.

    This seems to be the case with our leaders. They simply can’t, or won’t, believe that Islam means what it says despite an avalanche of examples that they do mean exactly what the Quran says.

    To be logically consistent and fair, the same goes for the Jews. The state rabbi for the Shepherdic branch of Judiasm had these hum dingers to say about the non-Jew:

    “Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world – only to serve the People of Israel.”

    “In Israel, death has no dominion over them… With gentiles, it will be like any person – they need to die, but [God] will give them longevity. Why? Imagine that one’s donkey would die, they’d lose their money.”

    “This is his servant… That’s why he gets a long life, to work well for this Jew.”

    “Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat… That is why gentiles were created.”

    He was given an extravagant state funeral in Israel.

    No sure why we are so friendly to people that think that we are basically farm animals but that might be another subject for another day.

    What I’ve learned causes me to think that all Abrahamic (AKA Semitic) religions are pretty awful as they come from a source (Judiasm) that is pretty terrible at face value. Islam is just the latest incarnation.

    It’s true that Christianity has done an amazing job of reforming itself but the source of Christianity is still pretty terrible. The reformed versions that we have now seem to be a mixture of nonsense and feel good TIm Robbins stuff. (I live in the hometown of Joel Olsteen, a true purveyor of feel good non-sense.) There is a reason Christianity is dying.

    Hard to build a good house on a rotten foundation.

    • Jonathan Gardner Says:

      I can’t find the passage of the Talmud you listed. Here is where your reference lead me: http://come-and-hear.com/babamezia/babamezia_114.html#PARTb

      (You should know why the bible is terrible.)

      I do know the Bible, and I don’t understand what you are referring to. Let’s save that discussion for another time. Suffice it to say, I’ve heard the criticisms and found them to be taken out of context or exaggerated.

      Condemning an entire nation because of one man? All men are imperfect. We revere George Washington and I am sure he has said some things we wouldn’t find palatable. On the whole, and this is important, George Washington has proven himself to be kind and tolerant and welcoming and an upstanding man for his time. I don’t know much about Ovadia Yosef so I shall refrain from commenting. My first impressions is that he did a lot of good despite his obviously not popularly accepted statements.

      Not much to say on the rotten foundation of Christianity. It’s the entire basis of restorationism. The Book of Mormon has a lot of words for preachers who preach for their own gain. But there again, is it really fair to lump all sects of Christendom into one? In any given sect, there is going to be a wide variety of opinions, good and bad. That said, there are certainly some general themes that most sects agree on. Paying ministers to say what people want to hear is not one of them.

      Yes, it is important to pay attention to what people say. It’s important to take people seriously when they are serious. But it’s also important to let people speak for themselves and not condemn entire groups based on the actions and words of a few. There are, of course, muslims who believe they do not have a religious duty to kill everyone. Unfortunately, we know from opinion polls and the actions of very many that they are probably not the majority, at least outside of the US. And there are Jews and Christians I would feel the world would be better off without. Let them speak for themselves, however.

  3. Jason Gardner Says:

    Not condemning a nation due to one man.

    My point is that if you say R believes X (a book, theology or whatever) an X necessarily implies Y, don’t be surprised when you see R do Y.

    If the Talmud and Torah place Jews above the gentiles, don’t be surprised when they act like they are above gentiles. If the Koran gives the green light to wage Jihad, don’t be surprised when Muslims wage Jihad.

    If a person doesn’t believe the Torah and Talmud then the person is disingenuous in calling themselves Jews. Similar, if a person doesn’t believe in waging Jihad then that person is intellectually lazy in calling themselves Muslim.

    If a person calls themselves Muslim then I know that person is either:
    a) Believes in a literal reading of the Koran. (I know what is in the Koran. I don’t want to be around that person.)
    b) Is intellectually lazy.
    c) Is lying to themselves.

    It seems foolish to me that we don’t believe people at their word. Or we imagine that people don’t mean what they say.

    If you say you are a Jew and practice Judaism then I don’t want you around because I don’t like the “Gods chosen people, OK to abuse the gentile” belief that the Jews have.

    In either case, shame on me if I’m surprised by the Jew who treats gentiles differently or the Muslim who wages holy Jihad.

    My being “surprised” just shows how incompetent I am.

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